Demo Drehteile GmbH · Demo Machining Sp. z o.o. · goal: Leverage
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Total cost over the contract. Our alternative (walking away) would cost €238,800, worse than the opening offer.
Hallo,
here is our price.
Our terms: a price of €17.10 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, Lieferzeit 28 days.
Back to the machines now.
Gruß
Claudia Aigner
Owner, Demo Drehteile GmbH
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Dear partner,
Thank you for your enquiry. Please find our Angebot below.
Our terms: a price of €16.00 per unit, Zahlungsziel 45 days net, delivery EXW.
We are fully committed to winning your business and to becoming a long-term partner for your team.
Best regards
Joanna Kaczmarek
Export Manager, Demo Machining Sp. z o.o.
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| Term | Main sheet | Alt 1 | Alt 2 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Unit price | €15.20 | €14.90 | €14.70 |
| Payment terms | 60 days | 60 days | 45 days |
| Lead time | 35 days | 35 days | 35 days |
| Incoterm | DAP | FCA | EXW |
Dear Ms Kaczmarek,
Thank you for your offer. Your quote leaves lead time at your standard 45 days. Our requirement for SH-220 is at most 42 days, and we plan for 35. Could you confirm your earliest possible lead time?
Delivery terms also matter to us. Our competing quote is delivered DAP with 60 days payment and a 35-day lead time.
We have attached three alternative packages for your review. We would also appreciate a cost breakdown for the shaft, covering material, machining and logistics. Please also tell us whether a cheaper process variant is possible.
Best regards
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH, Purchasing
Dear partner,
Thank you very much for your message - we are very glad about your interest in our company.
We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows.
Our terms: a price of €16.40 per unit, Zahlungsziel 45 days net, Lieferzeit 35 days, delivery EXW.
Please let me explain.
Regarding the competing quote you mentioned, we kindly ask you to provide documentation so we can properly assess the market situation.
Our engineering department will review your request for a cost breakdown and potential process variants, and will reply separately.
Alternatively, with Lieferzeit 42 days: €15.70 per unit.
Which figures is that based on? Please send us the data.
Material accounts for about 45 % of our cost; more detail we do not share.
Our standard Zahlungsziel is 45 days net.
Faster payment is welcome; we can reflect it in the price.
Our whole team is ready, and we will do everything to make you a satisfied customer.
Best regards
Joanna Kaczmarek
Export Manager, Demo Machining Sp. z o.o.
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| Term | Main sheet | Alt 1 | Alt 2 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Unit price | €15.00 | €15.30 | €15.60 |
| Payment terms | 30 days | 45 days | 45 days |
| Lead time | 42 days | 42 days | 35 days |
| Incoterm | EXW | FCA | EXW |
Dear Ms Kaczmarek,
Thank you for your revised offer and the delivery schedule. The 42-day option is helpful.
On the competing quote: we treat other suppliers' quotes as confidential, the same way we treat yours. We would rather focus on finding terms that work for both of us.
You mentioned that faster payment can be reflected in the price. One of the packages below therefore offers payment at 30 days. Another moves delivery to FCA.
Could you also tell us when your engineering team expects to reply on process variants? We would welcome any cheaper option.
Best regards
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH, Purchasing
Hallo,
thanks for the mail.
you did not move, so neither do we.
Our terms: a price of €17.10 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, Lieferzeit 28 days.
Straight answer:
Without movement from your side we cannot move either.
We calculate tight, there is not much air in our prices.
Back to the machines now.
Gruß
Claudia Aigner
Owner, Demo Drehteile GmbH
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Dear partner,
We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows. We appreciate your flexibility on payment terms; the 30-day payment option allows us to offer a more competitive price.
Our main proposal stands at a price of €15.70 per unit, Zahlungsziel 45 days net, Lieferzeit 42 days, delivery FCA. This offer remains valid for 30 days.
As an option, for the package with 30 days payment and 42 days lead time, we can offer €15.40 per unit. Alternatively, with Zahlungsziel 30 days net and delivery EXW: €15.40 per unit, with a price of €15.40 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, Lieferzeit 42 days, delivery EXW.
We look forward to building a strong relationship with you.
Best regards
Joanna Kaczmarek
Export Manager, Demo Machining Sp. z o.o.
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| Term | Main sheet | Alt 1 | Alt 2 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Unit price | €15.30 | €15.00 | €15.60 |
| Payment terms | 45 days | 30 days | 45 days |
| Lead time | 42 days | 42 days | 42 days |
| Incoterm | FCA | EXW | DAP |
Dear Ms Kaczmarek,
Thank you for your revised offer and the 30-day payment option. We are close, but your price is still above where we need it for an award.
We have attached three packages, all at your 42-day lead time. One keeps FCA with your standard 45 days payment. One combines 30 days payment with EXW. The third moves delivery to DAP.
Could you also share your plant engineer's findings on cheaper process variants? We would gladly reflect any saving in the packages.
If one of these works for you, we can move to award quickly.
Best regards
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH, Purchasing
Hallo,
Without movement from your side we cannot move either.
Regarding our current Angebot, our terms stand at a price of €17.10 per unit, a Zahlungsziel 30 days net, and a Lieferzeit 28 days. As a small shop, we have to keep our numbers clear and tight to keep the machines running for you.
Let us know where you stand so we can figure out the next steps for this order.
Gruß
Claudia Aigner
Owner, Demo Drehteile GmbH
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Dear partner,
We have reviewed your offer and hold our Angebot. Since your proposed prices have not increased, we must hold our previous offer. Our current offer remains a price of €15.70 per unit, Zahlungsziel 45 days net, Lieferzeit 42 days, delivery FCA. This offer stays valid for 30 days.
Please note that these options require your engineering approval and a new drawing revision before we can apply the savings. We are very eager to work with you and to prove ourselves as a reliable, long-term partner for your business.
Best regards
Joanna Kaczmarek
Export Manager, Demo Machining Sp. z o.o.
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| Term | Main sheet | Alt 1 | Alt 2 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Unit price | €15.45 | €15.20 | €15.30 |
| Payment terms | 45 days | 30 days | 30 days |
| Lead time | 42 days | 42 days | 42 days |
| Incoterm | FCA | EXW | FCA |
Dear Ms Kaczmarek,
Thank you for holding your offer and for sharing your plant engineer's findings.
We have moved our prices up. The three packages below all keep your 42-day lead time. Two of them offer 30 days payment, which you said you can reflect in the price.
On the process variants, we are open to reviewing the material grade and the tolerance with our engineering team. Could you please send the full figure for the doubled lot size? Larger call-off lots may be possible on our side.
If one of these packages works for you, we can move to award promptly.
Best regards
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH, Purchasing
Hallo,
We are withdrawing from this negotiation. We cannot find a workable way forward for our shop on this project, so we will not be submitting another Angebot or continuing our talks.
Gruß
Claudia Aigner
Owner, Demo Drehteile GmbH
The supplier ended the thread; nothing left to decide.
Dear partner,
We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows. We appreciate your increased offers and are pleased to see we are moving closer to an agreement.
In response to your movement, we can reduce our price to €15.30 per unit for the package with 30 days payment and EXW delivery. Specifically, our current Angebot stands at a price of €15.30 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, Lieferzeit 42 days, delivery EXW. This offer remains valid for 30 days.
Which volume can you commit to? A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price. We remain very eager to work together and build a successful partnership.
Best regards
Joanna Kaczmarek
Export Manager, Demo Machining Sp. z o.o.
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| Term | Main sheet | Alt 1 | Alt 2 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Unit price | €15.20 | €15.10 | €15.25 |
| Payment terms | 30 days | 14 days | 30 days |
| Lead time | 42 days | 42 days | 42 days |
| Incoterm | EXW | EXW | FCA |
Dear Ms Kaczmarek,
Thank you for moving to EUR 15.30. We appreciate the progress.
We are now very close and propose three final packages, all at 42 days lead time. The first is EUR 15.20 with 30 days payment and EXW. The second is EUR 15.10 with 14 days payment and EXW, which gives you faster cash. The third is EUR 15.25 with 30 days payment and FCA.
On volume, our planned need is 6,000 pieces per year over the 24-month term. We can offer stable call-offs in larger lots if that helps your lot-size saving. Could you send the full figure for the doubled lot size?
If one of these packages works for you, we can award promptly.
Best regards
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH, Purchasing
Dear partner,
We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows. We welcome the 14-day payment option, but we have reached our limit and must hold our price at EUR 15.30 per unit.
Our offer is a price of €15.30 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, Lieferzeit 42 days, delivery EXW. Our offer stays valid for 30 days.
Alternatively, with Zahlungsziel 14 days net: a price of €15.30 per unit, Zahlungsziel 14 days net, Lieferzeit 42 days, delivery EXW.
Our price follows our main cost drivers: BAR-14021, WAGES-METAL. Our standard Zahlungsziel is 45 days net. Faster payment is welcome; we can reflect it in the price. We are ready to move forward with the 6,000 pieces per year once your engineering team approves the changes. A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price. Which volume can you commit to?
Best regards
Joanna Kaczmarek
Export Manager, Demo Machining Sp. z o.o.
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✓ Accepted offer:DEMO-C1-5