P08 · Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH · goal: Leverage

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Score0no deal · no deal · 4 rounds
Opening offer
€1,135,887
Our deal
none
Best possible
€960,309

Total cost over the contract. Our alternative (walking away) would cost €1,157,020, worse than the opening offer.

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHSupplier offerOur offerCeiling
€4.92€5.28€5.65€6.01openR1R2R3R4ceiling €6.02€5.35€5.24

How our agent negotiated

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Opening quotes

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHOpening quote
€6.05
Their reasons
  • AS-14404 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost.
  • LCI-C rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost.
  • PPI-C2431 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost.
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70710-0.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

Thank you for your enquiry. Please find our Angebot below.

We are pleased to submit our offer at a price of €6.05 per unit, with a Zahlungsziel 30 days net, a contract term of 12 months, and no Preisgleitklausel. Please note that this offer remains valid for 30 days.

To give you some insight into our cost environment: AS-14404 rose 5.9 % in twelve months and is 45 % of our cost. Furthermore, LCI-C rose 2.7 % in twelve months and is 5 % of our cost, while PPI-C2431 rose 12.3 % in twelve months and is 38 % of our cost.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €4.88 with 3 sheetsEngine13 ms
Their price, our terms
€6.10
Our offer
€4.88
Anchor
€4.88
Ceiling
€6.02
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€919,080 / €1,135,887
Arguments picked:Index changeIndex changeDelivery record
TermMain sheetAlt 1Alt 2
Unit price€4.88€4.87€4.84
Index clausenonenonenone
Payment terms90 days90 days60 days
Contract length24 months36 months24 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your offer and for explaining your position.

Our data shows a different picture on some points:
Alloy surcharge 1.4404, Isartal Edelstahlwerk (fictional mill, derived) changed -5.5% from 2026-06 to 2026-09 (idx:AS-14404@2026-06, idx:AS-14404@2026-09).
Producer prices DE: cold drawing of bars changed -2.3% from 2026-06 to 2026-08 (idx:PPI-C2431@2026-06, idx:PPI-C2431@2026-08).
Your rolling scorecard shows on-time delivery of 88.0% (sc:70710@2026Q3).

Please find 3 packages below. Each of them works for us; let us know which one suits you best.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 1

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHCounter-offer
€5.41▼ 10.6 % vs their last+1 alternative
Checked our arguments
Their reasons
  • We checked the index change data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
  • We checked the index change data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
  • We checked the delivery record data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
  • That is not our reality: our AS-14404 is covered at fixed prices until March … so that fall does not reach our cost.
  • AS-14404 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost. That remains.
  • LCI-C rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost. That remains.
  • PPI-C2431 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost. That remains.
  • We have reviewed your data; while the PPI-C2431 decrease allows us to adjust our offer, our AS-14404 is covered at fixed prices until March … meaning recent drops do not affect our current costs.
  • We are pleased to accommodate your request for a 24-month contract and 60-day payment terms.
  • However, for a 24-month duration, we must include an AS-14404 index clause to manage long-term material price volatility.
  • Alternatively, with Zahlungsziel … days net and a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404: €… per unit.
  • Material accounts for about … of our cost; more detail we do not share.
  • We can offer a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404, AS-14404, AS-14404.
  • Our standard Zahlungsziel is … days net.
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheets and … cited facts to check; we answer with our offer.
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows. We checked the index change data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation. We checked the index change data you cited; it holds and we took it into account. We checked the delivery record data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation. That is not our reality: our AS-14404 is covered at fixed prices until March 2027, so that fall does not reach our cost. AS-14404 rose 5.9 % in twelve months and is 45 % of our cost. That remains. LCI-C rose 2.7 % in twelve months and is 5 % of our cost. That remains. PPI-C2431 rose 12.3 % in twelve months and is 38 % of our cost. That remains. We have reviewed your data; while the PPI-C2431 decrease allows us to adjust our offer, our AS-14404 is covered at fixed prices until March 2027, meaning recent drops do not affect our current costs. We are pleased to accommodate your request for a 24-month contract and 60-day payment terms. However, for a 24-month duration, we must include an AS-14404 index clause to manage long-term material price volatility. Material accounts for about 45 % of our cost; more detail we do not share. We can offer a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404, AS-14404, AS-14404. Our standard Zahlungsziel is 30 days net.

Our proposal stands at a price of €5.41 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 24 months, a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404.

Alternatively, with Zahlungsziel 60 days net and a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404: €5.49 per unit, a contract term of 24 months.

Please note that this offer remains valid for 30 days. We look forward to serving you with our wide product range and reliable service.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €4.93 with 2 sheetsEngine0 ms
Their price, our terms
€5.41
Our offer
€4.93
Anchor
€4.88
Ceiling
€6.02
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€928,496 / €1,135,887
Arguments picked:Volume change
TermMain sheetAlt 1
Unit price€4.93€4.77
Index clausenoneAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±0 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days90 days
Contract length24 months24 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply and for the step you have taken.

One more point from our side:
Our demand forecast for this part has risen 1.9% (fc:370010@2026-09).

Please find 2 packages below. Each of them works for us; let us know which one suits you best.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 2

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHCounter-offer
€5.38▼ 0.6 % vs their last
Checked our arguments
Their reasons
  • We checked the volume change data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
  • Building on your second package, we accept the 24-month contract with 90-day payment terms and the AS-14404 index clause.
  • Consequently, we can offer a revised price of €… per unit.
  • A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
  • Which volume can you commit to?
  • We can offer a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404, AS-14404, AS-14404.
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheets and … cited fact to check; we answer with our offer.
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows. We checked the volume change data you cited; it holds and we took it into account. Building on your second package, we accept the 24-month contract with 90-day payment terms and the AS-14404 index clause.

Consequently, we can offer a revised price of €5.38 per unit. Our complete revised Angebot comprises a price of €5.38 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 24 months, a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404. Furthermore, we can offer a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404, AS-14404, AS-14404.

As your reliable distributor, we are always keen to work together closely. A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price. Which volume can you commit to? Please note that this offer remains valid for 30 days.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.06 with 2 sheetsEngine0 ms
Their price, our terms
€5.38
Our offer
€5.06
Anchor
€4.88
Ceiling
€6.02
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€952,980 / €1,135,887
TermMain sheetAlt 1
Unit price€5.06€4.90
Index clausenoneAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±0 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days90 days
Contract length24 months24 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply and for the step you have taken.

Please find 2 packages below. Each of them works for us; let us know which one suits you best.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 3

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHFinal offer
€5.35▼ 0.6 % vs their last
Their reasons
  • Thank you for your revised offer and the step you have taken.
  • Building on your second package, we can adjust our price to €… per unit for the 24-month contract with 90-day payment terms and the AS-14404 index clause.
  • We note that you have not yet specified a binding volume; what volume can you commit to in order to help us improve the price further?
  • Which volume can you commit to?
▸Inside the supplier · 3 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheets; we answer with our final offer.
  3. Inside Sales → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70710-3.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

Thank you for your revised offer and the step you have taken. Building on your second package, we can adjust our price to €5.35 per unit for the 24-month contract with 90-day payment terms and the AS-14404 index clause.

Please note that this is our final offer (letztes Angebot). Please decide. Our Angebot remains valid for 7 days.

Specifically, our offer stands at a price of €5.35 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 24 months, and a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404.

We note that you have not yet specified a binding volume; what volume can you commit to in order to help us improve the price further? Which volume can you commit to? We value working with you and look forward to your response.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.24Engine0 msPushed after a final offer

The supplier had said final offer at €5.35; the agent still asked for less.

TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.24
Index clauseAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±0 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days
Contract length24 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your offer. We are very close and would like to conclude.
If you can meet us at the terms below, we can confirm the order right away.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 4

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHWalked away
Their reasons
  • Which volume can you commit to?
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: final_offer.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet; we withdraw.
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

We are withdrawing from this negotiation. Our offering is valid for 14 days.

As a dedicated supplier with a broad product range and strong commitment to service, we always strive to find the right fit for your needs. Which volume can you commit to?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent

The supplier ended the thread; nothing left to decide.