P08 · Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH · goal: Leverage

engine v1.7 · commit 8ab7b67 · session b7c1504adb46f3b8 · played Sat, 24 Oct 2026, 19:46 UTC in 156 s

Score54deal · accepted · 5 rounds
Opening offer
€1,135,887
Our deal
€1,041,432
Best possible
€960,309

Total cost over the contract. Our alternative (walking away) would cost €1,157,020, worse than the opening offer.

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHSupplier offerOur offerCeiling
€5.09€5.40€5.71€6.02openR1R2R3R4ceiling €5.97€5.48€5.32

How our agent negotiated

Who decided
5 by the code engine
Thinking time
0.02 s over 5 decisions
Arguments checked
✓ 4 verified
Timeouts
none

Deal total cost

Price (units × unit price)€1,039,008
On top of the price
Index clause€4,676
Index risk€4,676
Payment terms-€6,927

Move by move

Opening quotes

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHOpening quote
€6.05
Their reasons
  • AS-14404 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost.
  • LCI-C rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost.
  • PPI-C2431 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost.
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70710-0.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

Thank you for your enquiry. Please find our Angebot below.

We are pleased to submit our offer at a price of €6.05 per unit, with a Zahlungsziel 30 days net, a contract term of 12 months, and no Preisgleitklausel. Please note that this offer remains valid for 30 days.

To give you some insight into our cost environment: AS-14404 rose 5.9 % in twelve months and is 45 % of our cost. Furthermore, LCI-C rose 2.7 % in twelve months and is 5 % of our cost, while PPI-C2431 rose 12.3 % in twelve months and is 38 % of our cost.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.06Engine17 ms
Their price, our terms
€6.10
Our offer
€5.06
Anchor
€5.06
Ceiling
€6.02
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€952,980 / €1,135,887
Arguments picked:Index changeDelivery recordVolume change
TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.06
Index clausenone
Payment terms90 days
Contract length36 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your offer and for explaining your position.

Our data shows a different picture on some points:
Alloy surcharge 1.4404, Isartal Edelstahlwerk (fictional mill, derived) changed -5.5% from 2026-06 to 2026-09 (idx:AS-14404@2026-06, idx:AS-14404@2026-09).
Your rolling scorecard shows on-time delivery of 88.0% (sc:70710@2026Q3).
Our demand forecast for this part has risen 1.9% (fc:370010@2026-09).

Please find our proposal below.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 1

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHCounter-offer
€5.45▼ 9.9 % vs their last+1 alternative
Checked our arguments
Their reasons
  • We checked the index change data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
  • We checked the delivery record data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
  • We checked the volume change data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
  • That is not our reality: our AS-14404 is covered at fixed prices until March … so that fall does not reach our cost.
  • AS-14404 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost. That remains.
  • LCI-C rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost. That remains.
  • PPI-C2431 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost. That remains.
  • We acknowledge the recent decrease in the AS-14404 index; however, our raw material is secured at fixed prices until March … limiting our ability to pass on this short-term reduction.
  • We can accommodate your request for a 36-month contract and 90-day payment terms, provided we include an AS-14404 index clause to manage long-term volatility.
  • Taking your increased volume forecast and delivery feedback into account, we propose a revised base price of €….
  • Alternatively, with a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404: €… per unit.
  • Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
  • A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
  • Which volume can you commit to?
▸Inside the supplier · 4 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet and … cited facts to check; we answer with our offer.
  3. Inside Sales → LogisticsThe buyer asks something for Logistics; please answer.
  4. Inside Sales → teamdelivery schedule attached (delivery-schedule.xlsx)
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,
Thank you very much for your message - it is always a pleasure to hear from you, and we are glad to help wherever we can.
We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows.
Our terms: a price of €5.45 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 36 months, a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404.
Here is the background.
We checked the index change data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
We checked the delivery record data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
We checked the volume change data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
That is not our reality: our AS-14404 is covered at fixed prices until March 2027, so that fall does not reach our cost.
AS-14404 rose 5.9 % in twelve months and is 45 % of our cost. That remains.
LCI-C rose 2.7 % in twelve months and is 5 % of our cost. That remains.
PPI-C2431 rose 12.3 % in twelve months and is 38 % of our cost. That remains.
We acknowledge the recent decrease in the AS-14404 index; however, our raw material is secured at fixed prices until March 2027, limiting our ability to pass on this short-term reduction.
We can accommodate your request for a 36-month contract and 90-day payment terms, provided we include an AS-14404 index clause to manage long-term volatility.
Taking your increased volume forecast and delivery feedback into account, we propose a revised base price of €5.57.
Alternatively, with a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404: €5.57 per unit.
Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
Which volume can you commit to?
And while we are at it: our whole range is at your disposal, so if there is anything else on your list, just send it over - we are happy to quote.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.11Engine1 ms
Their price, our terms
€5.57
Our offer
€5.11
Anchor
€5.06
Ceiling
€5.97
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€971,117 / €1,135,887
Arguments picked:order_history
TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.11
Index clauseAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±5 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days
Contract length36 months
Cited:po:4500014305-10po:4500014391-10po:4500014455-10
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply and for the step you have taken.
We can commit to 94,800 pieces per year over 36 months, as set out in our proposal below.
Our proposal includes the price adjustment clause you asked for.

One more point from our side:
Our last 3 orders for this part were at EUR 5.45 per unit (po:4500014455-10, po:4500014391-10, po:4500014305-10).

Please find our proposal below.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 2

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHCounter-offer
€5.55▲ 1.8 % vs their last
Checked our arguments
  • ✓ verifiedprice_historypo:4500014305-10po:4500014391-10po:4500014455-10
Their reasons
  • We checked the price history data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
  • To accommodate the … deadband, which increases our risk, we can offer €… per unit for the 36-month contract with … days payment.
  • If you prefer a price closer to your historical level, we can revert to the index clause without a deadband as previously offered.
  • Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
  • We can offer a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404, AS-14404, AS-14404.
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet and … cited fact to check; we answer with our offer.
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows. We checked the price history data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation. Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.

To accommodate the 5% deadband, which increases our risk, we can offer a price of €5.55 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 36 months, a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404. If you prefer a price closer to your historical level, we can revert to the index clause without a deadband as previously offered. Furthermore, we can offer a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404, AS-14404, AS-14404.

Please note that this proposal stays valid for 30 days. We always appreciate working with you and look forward to remaining your reliable steel partner.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.24Engine1 ms
Their price, our terms
€5.55
Our offer
€5.24
Anchor
€5.06
Ceiling
€5.97
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€995,822 / €1,135,887
Arguments picked:call_note
TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.24
Index clauseAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±5 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days
Contract length36 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply and for the step you have taken.

One more point from our side:
We would also welcome your view on the points from our call about "Price discussion" (doc:20260421-70710-M2).

Please find our proposal below.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 3

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHCounter-offer
€5.51▼ 0.7 % vs their last
Their reasons
  • We appreciate your revised offer and are pleased to reduce our price to €… per unit to keep the momentum going.
  • Our colleagues will review the points from our call regarding the price discussion and get back to you.
  • As previously mentioned, our raw material costs are fixed until March … which restricts our ability to pass on recent index drops.
  • Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet; we answer with our offer.
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows. We appreciate your revised offer and are pleased to reduce our price to €5.51 per unit to keep the momentum going.

Our current Angebot is a price of €5.51 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 36 months, and a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404. Please note that our offer stays valid for 30 days.

Our colleagues will review the points from our call regarding the price discussion and get back to you. As previously mentioned, our raw material costs are fixed until March 2027, which restricts our ability to pass on recent index drops. For full transparency, our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.

We value our partnership and look forward to continuing our work together.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.32Engine1 ms
Their price, our terms
€5.51
Our offer
€5.32
Anchor
€5.06
Ceiling
€5.97
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€1,011,026 / €1,135,887
TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.32
Index clauseAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±5 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days
Contract length36 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply and for the step you have taken.

Please find our proposal below.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 4

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHFinal offer
€5.48▼ 0.5 % vs their last
Their reasons
  • We appreciate your revised proposal and are pleased to reduce our price to €… per unit.
  • This step reflects our commitment to our partnership, while we must maintain our position regarding our fixed raw material costs until March ….
▸Inside the supplier · 4 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet; we answer with our final offer.
  3. Inside Sales → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70710-4.pdf)
  4. Inside Sales → teamorder confirmation attached (order-confirmation-offer-70710-4.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

We appreciate your revised proposal and are pleased to reduce our price to €5.48 per unit. This step reflects our commitment to our partnership, while we must maintain our position regarding our fixed raw material costs until March 2027.

This is our final offer (letztes Angebot). Please decide.

Under this final Angebot, we provide a price of €5.48 per unit, a Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 36 months, and a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404.

Please note that this offer remains valid for 7 days. We value working with you and look forward to continuing our cooperation with your team.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Accept this offerEngine1 ms

final_offer; C 1,041,432 below the limit 1,135,887

✓ Accepted offer:70710-4