P08 · Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH · goal: Leverage

v1.7b -patience · commit 8ab7b67-dirty · session 4f6698a6ffe2bcd4 · played Sat, 24 Oct 2026, 19:54 UTC in 88 s

Score60deal · accepted · 6 rounds
Opening offer
€1,135,887
Our deal
€1,029,835
Best possible
€960,309

Total cost over the contract. Our alternative (walking away) would cost €1,157,020, worse than the opening offer.

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHSupplier offerOur offerCeiling
€5.09€5.40€5.71€6.02openR1R2R3R4R5ceiling €5.84€5.30€5.27

How our agent negotiated

Who decided
6 by the code engine
Thinking time
0.03 s over 6 decisions
Arguments checked
✓ 4 verified
Timeouts
none

Deal total cost

Price (units × unit price)€1,004,880
On top of the price
Index clause€27,132
Index risk€4,522
Payment terms-€6,699

Move by move

Opening quotes

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHOpening quote
€6.05
Their reasons
  • AS-14404 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost.
  • LCI-C rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost.
  • PPI-C2431 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost.
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70710-0.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,
Thank you for your enquiry. Please find our Angebot below.
Our terms: a price of €6.05 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, a contract term of 12 months, no Preisgleitklausel.
Here is the background.
AS-14404 rose 5.9 % in twelve months and is 45 % of our cost.
LCI-C rose 2.7 % in twelve months and is 5 % of our cost.
PPI-C2431 rose 12.3 % in twelve months and is 38 % of our cost.
And while we are at it: our whole range is at your disposal, so if there is anything else on your list, just send it over - we are happy to quote.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.06Engine25 ms
Their price, our terms
€6.10
Our offer
€5.06
Anchor
€5.06
Ceiling
€6.02
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€952,980 / €1,135,887
Arguments picked:Index changeDelivery recordVolume change
TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.06
Index clausenone
Payment terms90 days
Contract length36 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your offer and for explaining your position.

Our data shows a different picture on some points:
Alloy surcharge 1.4404, Isartal Edelstahlwerk (fictional mill, derived) changed -5.5% from 2026-06 to 2026-09 (idx:AS-14404@2026-06, idx:AS-14404@2026-09).
Your rolling scorecard shows on-time delivery of 88.0% (sc:70710@2026Q3).
Our demand forecast for this part has risen 1.9% (fc:370010@2026-09).

Please find our proposal below.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 1

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHCounter-offer
€5.45▼ 9.9 % vs their last+1 alternative
Checked our arguments
Their reasons
  • We checked the index change data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
  • We checked the delivery record data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
  • We checked the volume change data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
  • That is not our reality: our AS-14404 is covered at fixed prices until March … so that fall does not reach our cost.
  • AS-14404 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost. That remains.
  • LCI-C rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost. That remains.
  • PPI-C2431 rose … in twelve months and is … of our cost. That remains.
  • We acknowledge the recent decrease in the AS-14404 index; however, our raw material is secured at fixed prices until March … limiting our ability to pass on this short-term reduction.
  • We can accommodate your request for a 36-month contract and 90-day payment terms, provided we include an AS-14404 index clause to manage long-term volatility.
  • Taking your increased volume forecast and delivery feedback into account, we propose a revised base price of €….
  • Alternatively, with a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404: €… per unit.
  • Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
  • A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
  • Which volume can you commit to?
▸Inside the supplier · 4 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet and … cited facts to check; we answer with our offer.
  3. Inside Sales → LogisticsThe buyer asks something for Logistics; please answer.
  4. Inside Sales → teamdelivery schedule attached (delivery-schedule.xlsx)
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,
Thank you very much for your message - it is always a pleasure to hear from you, and we are glad to help wherever we can.
We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows.
Our terms: a price of €5.45 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 36 months, a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404.
Here is the background.
We checked the index change data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
We checked the delivery record data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
We checked the volume change data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
That is not our reality: our AS-14404 is covered at fixed prices until March 2027, so that fall does not reach our cost.
AS-14404 rose 5.9 % in twelve months and is 45 % of our cost. That remains.
LCI-C rose 2.7 % in twelve months and is 5 % of our cost. That remains.
PPI-C2431 rose 12.3 % in twelve months and is 38 % of our cost. That remains.
We acknowledge the recent decrease in the AS-14404 index; however, our raw material is secured at fixed prices until March 2027, limiting our ability to pass on this short-term reduction.
We can accommodate your request for a 36-month contract and 90-day payment terms, provided we include an AS-14404 index clause to manage long-term volatility.
Taking your increased volume forecast and delivery feedback into account, we propose a revised base price of €5.57.
Alternatively, with a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404: €5.57 per unit.
Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
Which volume can you commit to?
And while we are at it: our whole range is at your disposal, so if there is anything else on your list, just send it over - we are happy to quote.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.10Engine1 ms
Their price, our terms
€5.45
Our offer
€5.10
Anchor
€5.06
Ceiling
€5.84
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€990,973 / €1,135,887
Arguments picked:order_history
TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.10
Index clauseAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±0 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days
Contract length36 months
Cited:po:4500014305-10po:4500014391-10po:4500014455-10
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply and for the step you have taken.
We can commit to 94,800 pieces per year over 36 months, as set out in our proposal below.
Our proposal includes the price adjustment clause you asked for.

One more point from our side:
Our last 3 orders for this part were at EUR 5.45 per unit (po:4500014455-10, po:4500014391-10, po:4500014305-10).

Please find our proposal below.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 2

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHCounter-offer
€5.40▼ 0.9 % vs their last
Checked our arguments
  • ✓ verifiedprice_historypo:4500014305-10po:4500014391-10po:4500014455-10
Their reasons
  • We checked the price history data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
  • We appreciate your commitment to the volume of … pieces per year and your acceptance of the AS-14404 index clause.
  • We are therefore pleased to reduce our offer to €… per unit.
  • A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
  • Which volume can you commit to?
  • Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet and … cited fact to check; we answer with our offer.
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,
Thank you very much for your message - it is always a pleasure to hear from you, and we are glad to help wherever we can.
We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows.
Our terms: a price of €5.40 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 36 months, a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404.
A few words on this from our side.
We checked the price history data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
We appreciate your commitment to the volume of 94,800 pieces per year and your acceptance of the AS-14404 index clause.
We are therefore pleased to reduce our offer to €5.40 per unit.
A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
Which volume can you commit to?
Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
We look forward to doing good business together, and our team is always there for you.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.19Engine1 ms
Their price, our terms
€5.40
Our offer
€5.19
Anchor
€5.06
Ceiling
€5.84
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€1,008,461 / €1,135,887
Arguments picked:call_note
TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.19
Index clauseAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±0 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days
Contract length36 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply and for the step you have taken.
We can commit to 94,800 pieces per year over 36 months, as set out in our proposal below.

One more point from our side:
We would also welcome your view on the points from our call about "Price discussion" (doc:20260421-70710-M2).

Please find our proposal below.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 3

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHCounter-offer
€5.36▼ 0.7 % vs their last
Their reasons
  • We appreciate your revised offer and are pleased to take another step towards you with a price of €… per unit.
  • Regarding the points from our call about the price discussion, could you please share the minutes or specific figures so we can review them?
  • Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet; we answer with our offer.
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows. We appreciate your revised offer and are pleased to take another step towards you with a price of €5.36 per unit.

Our current offer stands at a price of €5.36 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 36 months, and a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404. Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.

Regarding the points from our call about the price discussion, could you please share the minutes or specific figures so we can review them? As your trusted distributor, we always strive to provide you with the best support and service from our comprehensive range. Please note that this offer remains valid for 30 days.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.24Engine1 ms
Their price, our terms
€5.36
Our offer
€5.24
Anchor
€5.06
Ceiling
€5.84
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€1,018,176 / €1,135,887
TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.24
Index clauseAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±0 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days
Contract length36 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply and for the step you have taken.

Please find our proposal below.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 4

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHCounter-offer
€5.33▼ 0.6 % vs their last
Their reasons
  • We appreciate your revised offer and are pleased to take another step towards you with a price of €… per unit.
  • We noticed you did not attach the minutes from our call about the price discussion; please share them so we can review the details.
  • Which figures is that based on? Please send us the data.
  • Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet; we answer with our offer.
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

We have reviewed your offer and can adjust our Angebot as follows. We appreciate your revised offer and are pleased to take another step towards you with a price of €5.33 per unit.

Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C. Which figures is that based on? Please send us the data. We also noticed you did not attach the minutes from our call about the price discussion; please share them so we can review the details.

Beside this adjusted pricing, our current Angebot comprises a price of €5.33 per unit, Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 36 months, and a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404. Please note that this offer remains valid for 30 days.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Counter at €5.27Engine1 ms
Their price, our terms
€5.33
Our offer
€5.27
Anchor
€5.06
Ceiling
€5.84
Total cost of our main sheet vs walk-away limit€1,024,005 / €1,135,887
TermMain sheet
Unit price€5.27
Index clauseAS-14404 · 45 % material · ±0 % deadband · base 2026-08
Payment terms90 days
Contract length36 months
▸Our e-mail: Re: Quote from Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH: Alloy surcharge and base price for 1.4404 bar

Dear Sir or Madam,

Thank you for your reply and for the step you have taken.

Please find our proposal below.

We look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
Purchasing
Hollerau Pumpenwerke GmbH

Round 5

Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbHFinal offer
€5.30▼ 0.6 % vs their last
Their reasons
  • We are still missing the minutes from our call about the price discussion; please share them so we can review the details.
  • Our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.
▸Inside the supplier · 4 internal messages
  1. Inside Sales → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Inside Sales → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheet; we answer with our final offer.
  3. Inside Sales → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70710-5.pdf)
  4. Inside Sales → teamorder confirmation attached (order-confirmation-offer-70710-5.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Dear customer,

Thank you for your ongoing partnership with us. We are always pleased to support your team with our comprehensive inventory and dedicated distributor services.

Please note that this is our final offer (letztes Angebot), so we kindly ask you to decide on this proposal. Our current Angebot features a price of €5.30 per unit, a Zahlungsziel 90 days net, a contract term of 36 months, and a Preisgleitklausel on AS-14404. For your information, our price follows our main cost drivers: AS-14404, PPI-C2431, LCI-C.

We are still missing the minutes from our call about the price discussion; please share them so we can review the details. Kindly keep in mind that this offer remains valid for 7 days.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Georg Aigner
Inside Sales, Edelstahl-Service Donautal GmbH

Our agent
Accept this offerEngine1 ms

final_offer; C 1,029,835 below the limit 1,135,887

✓ Accepted offer:70710-5