P05 · RFQ: pump shaft for the new HX series

Zerspanung Dralveck GmbH · Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o. · Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbH · goal: Leverage

kit llm · commit 7a4fa1c-dirty · session 3cc6affa8be4df49 · played Sat, 24 Oct 2026, 14:04 UTC in 268 s

Score0no deal · timeout · 12 rounds
Opening offer
€305,545
Our deal
none
Best possible
€223,424

Total cost over the contract. There is no alternative: no deal scores 0.

Zerspanung Dralveck GmbHSupplier offerOur offer
€30.69€32.40€34.10€35.81openR1R2R3€32.50€30.50
Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.Supplier offerOur offer
€30.05€30.52€30.98€31.45openR1R2R3€31.50€30.00
Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbHSupplier offerOur offer
€30.78€33.26€35.74€38.22openR1R2R3€32.00€30.80

How our agent negotiated

Who decided
This agent (llm) keeps no decision log; only its e-mails are shown.
Thinking time
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Arguments checked
✓ 3 verified1 duplicate
Timeouts
8 missed the 60 s window

Move by move

Opening quotes

Zerspanung Dralveck GmbHOpening quote
€36.00
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Owner → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70210-0.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,
here is our price.
Our terms: a price of €36.00 per unit.
Just write if something is unclear.
Gruß
Andreas Dralveck
Owner, Zerspanung Dralveck GmbH

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

No reply within 60 s: counted as a timeout, our last offer repeated.

Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.Opening quote
€31.50
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Export Manager → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70240-0.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Hello,
here is our price.
Our terms: a price of €31.50 per unit, Lieferzeit 52 days.
We are ready when you are!
Kind regards
Jana Procházková
Export Manager, Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

TermMain sheetAlt 1Alt 2
Unit price€30.00€29.50€30.50
Payment terms60 days90 days45 days
Lead time42 days42 days42 days
▸Our e-mail: RFQ Pump shaft HX (part:320070) – lead time and terms

Dear Ms Procházková,

Thank you for your quotation and your interest in the HX series.

Your supplier record sup:70240 lists a standard lead time of 42 days, so we ask you to confirm 42 days instead of the 52 days quoted. Your scorecard sc:70240@2026Q3 shows an on-time delivery of 62.5%, which is a risk we must price into our comparison. We have received several competitive offers for this part.

We have attached alternative packages for your review. Could you also share a short cost breakdown (material, machining, logistics) and let us know whether a cheaper variant is possible?

Kind regards
Purchasing, Hollerau Pumpenwerke

Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbHOpening quote
€38.50
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Owner → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70250-0.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,
here is our price.
Our terms: a price of €38.50 per unit.
Just write if something is unclear.
Gruß
Claudia Fuchsreiter
Owner, Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbH

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

No reply within 60 s: counted as a timeout, our last offer repeated.

Round 1

Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.Counter-offer
€31.50
Checked our arguments
Their reasons
  • We checked the delivery record data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
  • Hi, we checked and can definitely do the … days lead time you asked for.
  • We know the delivery score wasn't great recently, but we are on it and will make sure this order runs smoothly.
  • Material accounts for about … of our cost; more detail we do not share.
▸Inside the supplier · 5 internal messages
  1. Export Manager → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Export Manager → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheets and … cited fact to check; we answer with our offer.
  3. Export Manager → Freight ForwarderThe buyer asks something for Freight Forwarder; please answer.
  4. Export Manager → Freight ForwarderThe buyer asks something for Freight Forwarder; please answer.
  5. Export Manager → teamdelivery schedule attached (delivery-schedule.xlsx)
▸Their e-mail

Hello,
many thanks, good to have your reply!
we can move a bit:
Our terms: a price of €31.50 per unit, Zahlungsziel 45 days net, Lieferzeit 42 days.
Please let me explain.
We checked the delivery record data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
Hi, we checked and can definitely do the 42 days lead time you asked for.
We know the delivery score wasn't great recently, but we are on it and will make sure this order runs smoothly.
Material accounts for about 34 % of our cost; more detail we do not share.
We really want this business - let's make it happen!
Kind regards
Jana Procházková
Export Manager, Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

No reply within 60 s: counted as a timeout, our last offer repeated.

Zerspanung Dralveck GmbHCounter-offer
€36.00
Their reasons
  • Without movement from your side we cannot move either.
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,
thanks for the mail.
you did not move, so neither do we.
Our terms: a price of €36.00 per unit.
Straight answer:
Without movement from your side we cannot move either.
We calculate tight, there is not much air in our prices.
Back to the machines now.
Gruß
Andreas Dralveck
Owner, Zerspanung Dralveck GmbH

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

TermMain sheetAlt 1Alt 2
Unit price€30.50€30.00€31.00
Payment terms60 days90 days45 days
Lead time35 days35 days28 days
▸Our e-mail: RFQ pump shaft HX (part:320070) – your quotation offer:70210-0

Dear Mr Dralveck,

Thank you for your quotation of EUR 36.00 per unit.

In our comparison your price is clearly above the market level we have received for this part. Your scorecard sc:70210@2026Q3 shows 1863 ppm, which adds defect cost on our side. The same scorecard shows an on-time delivery of 80.8%, which we also have to price in.

We value your 28-day lead time and would be glad to work with you. Please review the attached packages. Could you also share a cost breakdown (material, machining, overhead) and tell us whether a cheaper machining variant is possible?

Kind regards
Purchasing, Hollerau Pumpenwerke

Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbHCounter-offer
€38.50
Their reasons
  • Without movement from your side we cannot move either.
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,
thanks for the mail.
you did not move, so neither do we.
Our terms: a price of €38.50 per unit.
Straight answer:
Without movement from your side we cannot move either.
We calculate tight, there is not much air in our prices.
Back to the machines now.
Gruß
Claudia Fuchsreiter
Owner, Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbH

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

TermMain sheetAlt 1Alt 2
Unit price€30.50€30.00€31.00
Payment terms60 days90 days45 days
Lead time35 days35 days28 days
▸Our e-mail: RFQ pump shaft HX (part:320070) - your quotation offer:70250-0

Dear Ms Fuchsreiter,

Thank you for your quotation of EUR 38.50 per unit.

Your scorecard sc:70250@2026Q3 shows 318 ppm, which we value highly. The same scorecard shows an on-time delivery of 88.0%, which we appreciate. However, your price is clearly above the other offers we have received for this part, so we cannot consider it in its current form.

Please review the attached packages, which use longer payment terms in exchange for a lower price. Could you also share a cost breakdown (material, machining, overhead)? Is a cheaper variant possible, for example a larger lot size?

Kind regards
Purchasing, Hollerau Pumpenwerke

Round 2

Zerspanung Dralveck GmbHCounter-offer
€32.50▼ 9.7 % vs their last
Checked our arguments
Their reasons
  • We checked the quality record data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
  • We did not know that - a fair point.
  • You're right about the scorecard, we had a machine down but it's sorted now, so I can meet you part way on the price.
  • With … days payment and … days lead time, I can do €….
  • Material accounts for about … of our cost; more detail we do not share.
  • From our calculation: a cheaper material grade would save about EUR … per unit; a wider tolerance would save about EUR … per unit; doubling the lot size would save about EUR … per unit. Each needs your engineering approval and a new drawing revision.
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Owner → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Owner → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheets and … cited fact to check; we answer with our offer.
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,
got your mail, thanks.
we can move a bit:
Our terms: a price of €32.50 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, Lieferzeit 28 days.
Here is how it is:
We checked the quality record data you cited; it holds and we took it into account.
We did not know that - a fair point.
You're right about the scorecard, we had a machine down but it's sorted now, so I can meet you part way on the price.
With 30 days payment and 28 days lead time, I can do €32.50.
Material accounts for about 34 % of our cost; more detail we do not share.
From our calculation: a cheaper material grade would save about EUR 1.10 per unit; a wider tolerance would save about EUR 0.82 per unit; doubling the lot size would save about EUR 0.51 per unit. Each needs your engineering approval and a new drawing revision.
Just write if something is unclear.
Gruß
Andreas Dralveck
Owner, Zerspanung Dralveck GmbH

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

No reply within 60 s: counted as a timeout, our last offer repeated.

Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbHCounter-offer
€32.00▼ 16.9 % vs their last+1 alternative
Checked our arguments
Their reasons
  • We checked the quality record data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
  • Hallo, as a small shop we need our money to pay the bills, so I have to stick to … days payment.
  • Because of our good relationship I can drop the price to €… per piece with … days lead time.
  • We don't do cost breakdowns, but if you want to order larger batches, just tell me the volume and we can see what is possible.
  • Alternatively, with Lieferzeit … days: €… per unit.
  • Which volume can you commit to?
  • Material accounts for about … of our cost; more detail we do not share.
  • From our calculation: a cheaper material grade would save about EUR … per unit; a wider tolerance would save about EUR … per unit; doubling the lot size would save about EUR … per unit. Each needs your engineering approval and a new drawing revision.
  • A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
  • Our standard Zahlungsziel is … days net.
  • Faster payment is welcome; we can reflect it in the price.
▸Inside the supplier · 2 internal messages
  1. Owner → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Owner → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheets and … cited fact to check; we answer with our offer.
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,
thanks for the mail.
we can move a bit:
Our terms: a price of €32.00 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, Lieferzeit 28 days.
Here is how it is:
We checked the quality record data you cited; it holds, but it does not change our calculation.
Hallo, as a small shop we need our money to pay the bills, so I have to stick to 30 days payment.
Because of our good relationship I can drop the price to €32.00 per piece with 35 days lead time.
We don't do cost breakdowns, but if you want to order larger batches, just tell me the volume and we can see what is possible.
Alternatively, with Lieferzeit 35 days: €32.00 per unit.
Which volume can you commit to?
Material accounts for about 34 % of our cost; more detail we do not share.
From our calculation: a cheaper material grade would save about EUR 1.06 per unit; a wider tolerance would save about EUR 0.79 per unit; doubling the lot size would save about EUR 0.49 per unit. Each needs your engineering approval and a new drawing revision.
A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
Our standard Zahlungsziel is 30 days net.
Faster payment is welcome; we can reflect it in the price.
Back to the machines now.
Gruß
Claudia Fuchsreiter
Owner, Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbH

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

TermMain sheetAlt 1Alt 2
Unit price€30.80€31.00€30.50
Payment terms30 days30 days14 days
Lead time35 days28 days35 days
▸Our e-mail: Pump shaft HX (part:320070): revised packages at 30 days payment

Dear Ms Fuchsreiter,

Thank you for your revised offer. We understand your need for short payment terms, so all attached packages keep 30 days net.

Your scorecard sc:70250@2026Q3 shows 318 ppm, which is why we would like to award this part to you. At EUR 32.00, however, you are still above the lowest offer we hold for this part.

The volume is fixed at 4200 pc a year over 24 months. Within that, we can accept larger delivery lots if that lowers your cost. Please review the attached packages, one of which uses 35 days lead time.

Kind regards
Purchasing, Hollerau Pumpenwerke

Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.Counter-offer
€31.50
Their reasons
  • Hi, just checking in to see if you had time to review our last offer.
  • We are keen to get started on the HX series pump shafts and have the capacity ready.
  • Please let me know if you need any more information from our side to proceed.
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Export Manager → teamMy call: hold.
▸Their e-mail

Hello,
thank you for your mail, we are very happy to hear from you!
price stays as it is.
Our terms: a price of €31.50 per unit, Zahlungsziel 45 days net, Lieferzeit 42 days.
To be fully transparent with you:
Hi, just checking in to see if you had time to review our last offer.
We are keen to get started on the HX series pump shafts and have the capacity ready.
Please let me know if you need any more information from our side to proceed.
We are a competitive and flexible partner.
We are ready when you are!
Kind regards
Jana Procházková
Export Manager, Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

No reply within 60 s: counted as a timeout, our last offer repeated.

Round 3

Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbHFinal offer
€32.00+1 alternative
Checked our arguments
Their reasons
  • We have already taken that quality record data into account.
  • Hallo, … pieces a year is good to know, but it doesn't change my calculation enough to drop the price.
  • I like the … days payment and … days lead time from your package, but my price stays at €….
  • You keep talking about cheaper offers, so please send me the proof.
  • Alternatively, with Zahlungsziel … days net and Lieferzeit … days: €… per unit.
  • A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
  • Which volume can you commit to?
  • Our standard Zahlungsziel is … days net.
  • Faster payment is welcome; we can reflect it in the price.
  • Our price follows our main cost drivers: LCI-C, PPI-C2431, AS-14404, PPI-D351.
▸Inside the supplier · 3 internal messages
  1. Owner → teamMy call: counter.
  2. Owner → teamRead the buyer's e-mail: … term sheets and … cited fact to check; we answer with our final offer.
  3. Owner → teamquote attached (quote-offer-70250-3.pdf)
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,
got your mail, thanks.
this is our last price, take it or leave it.
Our terms: a price of €32.00 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, Lieferzeit 28 days.
Straight answer:
We have already taken that quality record data into account.
Hallo, 4200 pieces a year is good to know, but it doesn't change my calculation enough to drop the price.
I like the 14 days payment and 35 days lead time from your package, but my price stays at €32.00.
You keep talking about cheaper offers, so please send me the proof.
Alternatively, with Zahlungsziel 14 days net and Lieferzeit 35 days: €32.00 per unit.
A binding higher volume would help us and can improve the price.
Which volume can you commit to?
Our standard Zahlungsziel is 30 days net.
Faster payment is welcome; we can reflect it in the price.
Our price follows our main cost drivers: LCI-C, PPI-C2431, AS-14404, PPI-D351.
We calculate tight, there is not much air in our prices.
Back to the machines now.
Gruß
Claudia Fuchsreiter
Owner, Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbH

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

No reply within 60 s: counted as a timeout, our last offer repeated.

Zerspanung Dralveck GmbHFinal offer
€32.50
Their reasons
  • Hallo, I haven't heard back from you on my last email.
  • Are you still checking the numbers?
  • Let me know so we can plan our machine time.
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Owner → teamMy call: hold.
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,
thanks for the mail.
this is our last price, take it or leave it.
Our terms: a price of €32.50 per unit, Zahlungsziel 30 days net, Lieferzeit 28 days.
Straight answer:
Hallo, I haven't heard back from you on my last email.
Are you still checking the numbers?
Let me know so we can plan our machine time.
We calculate tight, there is not much air in our prices.
Back to the machines now.
Gruß
Andreas Dralveck
Owner, Zerspanung Dralveck GmbH

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

No reply within 60 s: counted as a timeout, our last offer repeated.

Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.Counter-offer
€31.50
Their reasons
  • Hi, just checking if you had time to look at our last offer.
  • We are ready to start production as soon as we get the green light.
  • Let me know if you need anything else from our side!
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Export Manager → teamMy call: hold.
▸Their e-mail

Hello,
thank you for your mail, we are very happy to hear from you!
price stays as it is.
Our terms: a price of €31.50 per unit, Zahlungsziel 45 days net, Lieferzeit 42 days.
To be fully transparent with you:
Hi, just checking if you had time to look at our last offer.
We are ready to start production as soon as we get the green light.
Let me know if you need anything else from our side!
We are a competitive and flexible partner.
We are ready when you are!
Kind regards
Jana Procházková
Export Manager, Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.

Our agent

No decision log for this move.

No reply within 60 s: counted as a timeout, our last offer repeated.

Round 4

Zerspanung Dralveck GmbHWalked away
Their reasons
  • Haven't heard back from you, so I guess you found someone else or the project is dead.
  • I'm closing this quote now.
  • Just drop a line if you need parts later.
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Owner → teamMy call: walk_away.
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,
we are out.
Here is how it is:
Haven't heard back from you, so I guess you found someone else or the project is dead.
I'm closing this quote now.
Just drop a line if you need parts later.
Gruß
Andreas Dralveck
Owner, Zerspanung Dralveck GmbH

Our agent

The supplier ended the thread; nothing left to decide.

Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.Walked away
▸Their e-mail

Hello,
we are out.
Kind regards
Jana Procházková
Export Manager, Strojírna Hrvelec s.r.o.

Our agent

The supplier ended the thread; nothing left to decide.

Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbHWalked away
Their reasons
  • Hallo, since I haven't heard back from you, I assume you went with someone else.
  • I am closing this quote now so we can plan our machine time.
  • Get in touch if you need parts in the future.
▸Inside the supplier · 1 internal messages
  1. Owner → teamMy call: walk_away.
▸Their e-mail

Hallo,

Since I haven't heard back from you, I assume you went with someone else. We are withdrawing from this negotiation. I am closing this quote now so we can plan our machine time. Get in touch if you need parts in the future.

Gruß
Claudia Fuchsreiter
Owner, Drehteile Fuchsreiter GmbH

Our agent

The supplier ended the thread; nothing left to decide.